Whatever fits, I’m it. I guess. Because I admit it. I still like watching fights in hockey.
Don’t mistake. I’m not even saying I don’t mind them. I actually like them! I get excited when I see one about to go down. My adrenaline starts pumping when the gloves go off and two guys square off. I don’t want to see anyone get hurt, no matter the team he plays for. And I’m not cool with outright attacks on unwilling or unsuspecting participants. But two guys who know the deal and are willing combatants? Let’s get it on. Line brawl in Vancouver? Give me more camera angles. Goalies going at it? Fun stuff.
I know. I’m a brute. Go ahead and say it - to my face! Because people like me only want to fight you, and see fights. Sure. We don’t appreciate the game for its artistry and skill. OK. We don’t care about the long-term health of the players who make it such a great game. Whatever.
Or maybe we do, yet understand there’s always been an element in the sport that also makes it unique and, yes, violent. I’m not only ok with that, but actually miss the types of battles I used to see as a kid that got me to sit up in my dad’s recliner.
There aren’t as many fights anymore. But when they happen, I get that same rush. In fact, I still enjoy the anticipation of a “here-we-go” situation. After all the talk following Milan Lucic running Ryan Miller a couple years ago, everyone knew something would happen the next time the Sabres and Bruins met. I wanted to be there, and was. And early in the game, when Lucic was on the ice and Paul Gaustad jumped over the boards, I couldn’t wait. The adrenaline started pumping and the smile showed up. I think my own fists may have clenched and raised an inch or two. Here. We. Go. It didn’t matter the result of that one, I might as well have been fifteen years old again, watching Kevin Maguire take on Jay Miller in the playoffs.
If that makes me a thug, I’m guilty as charged. But I don’t think it does. It just makes me a fan. A fan of the game no different than the guy who hates fighting and wants it gone forever. Like many fans do now. Like many media members do. Like a lot of the people within the game. Like many former players, even those who made their living (and a good one) getting punched in the face every-other night.
I understand why those people want fighting gone completely. I just don’t agree with them. If it happens, I’ll still watch the sport, of course, with no less interest than I have now. But I’ll miss it.
And before you comment below or tweet me something about setting examples for kids, or what you’re supposed to tell your child when he or she sees a fight, or question how I could possibly take this stance as the father of a newborn who someday may want to play the sport – let me address all that right now.
It’s simple. I watched a lot of hockey growing up. Saw a lot of fights. Yelled at the TV or while in the stands at the game for whatever Sabres player was fighting to “beat the crap out of him.” And I turned out just fine. I have a college education, a job I love, a wonderful wife, and a happy, healthy baby boy. I didn’t become a mass murderer or even a wife-beater or child abuser.
I understood these guys were doing something that was (even then) a small part of the game, was often part of their job, and that they understood what they were doing. It didn’t mean I wanted to do it every time my buddies and I put a street hockey game together. In fact, just the opposite. I saw fights and knew I never wanted to be the guy involved in them. I hoped to never get my face punched in, and had no desire to try and do that to someone else.
When it comes to sports (and frankly most things in life, like drawing, which I’m horrible at), I enjoy watching people do things I can’t. And more interested and entertained watching people do things I’m unwilling to do.
I like watching hockey fights and make no apologies about it. I want fighting to stay a part of the game.
So, call me a savage. I’m fine with that.
Now if you’ll excuse me, I have some bench-clearing brawls in baseball to watch on YouTube.
Couldn't agree more. Finally, an article from WGR worth reading.
Maybe its an Italian thing but I find myself agreeing with Sal on most things. Fighting is one of them.
AN IGNORANT GOON!
YUP!!!!!!!!!!! Couldn't have said it better. I remember a kid and seeing an interview with Maguire before the playoffs started and they asked why he was sitting out for a game his response (and I may misquote a little) "I need to rest my knuckles". No I don't like to see a third man jump in or guys using their sticks but after I watched Scott drop that guy earlier this year with a well placed upper cut, it was all I could talk about the next day at work (and I now live in South Texas so bringing hockey up is about as well regarded as emiting gas during pray time at church)
SABRES VS SENATORS BRAWL
It has over 1.7 million hits on youtube. Pat Kaleta`s 1st game in the NHL. I love watching this video over and over.
I Must Admit, I'd Rather Be Watching The Charleston Chiefs Instead Of This Sabres Team
What hockey fan out there does not like the movie "Slap Shot"? And who did not like the Hanson brothers style of "play"... Fighting does have a place in the game among players and teams with a history between them. Staged fights are sort of dumb and uninteresting.
Personally, I'd be happy to see fighting gone. I think the game is good enough without it.
Sal gone south
At a radio station which lacks for professionalism, Sal was a welcomed relief. This article, and his barbaric position, places him right into the company of the incomplete sentence babbling Bulldog, the sarcastic "know it all" in Schopp and the overly analytical Matther Coller. Is there anyway that John Murphy can be on 24/7?
fighting is ok but.
they will never going to be able to take that out of the game. its not the fighting which is the problem; but when do you fight. if the team is up we don't need to be short handed. you are not going to win in the penalty box. Hey as long as you arewinning fight untill the break of dawn. because their not to many people are going to remember the fight. But they sure will remember that win. and then they would talk about the fight.
Also a Thug
Yep. I'm old fashioned and love the energy. I would suggest that anyone who disagrees, start watching polo..... wuss
I would NEVER watch a NHL without fighting. If its gone, I'm gone. The NHL has no idea what it's long time fans want, are only concerned with catering to new ones, and selling out to get more. Stay True
Re: Sal gone south
I put the blame totally on Jeremy.
Hey, it's a man's game...
Amen, brother! Well said.
better watch it, sal...
you'll soon be incurring the wrath of the wgr soccer-mom brigade...I think white, schoppsie and a somewhat reluctant simon might start slinging their purses at you...even worse, schoppsie and white might start throwing stats...viva john scott
I watched the Sabres since day one. I loved to see Schoney or Korab hand out justice. The rivalry of the Sabres (with the French Connection)with Boston and Philly in the early 70s was a job to watch. The Sabres could score and thump you if you needed it. It is apart of hockey and the culture of the sport. To me, it keeps the game in check because the Refs let a lot of chippy stuff go.
Goons Get A Bad Rap
Rob Ray has totally changed my outlook on goons. After learning more about the retired Rob Ray and hearing him speak about some of the men he fought on the ice, I've come to greatly respect many of the "goons" I once hated. Many of themare very friendly, intelligent, articulate and charitable human beings in their lives after hockey.
Good job Coach. I'm with ya on this one.
The Pussification of America
Seems like we were doing so well about 25-30 years ago. Now it appears as though there is something wrong with everything. We have turned into a bunch of wishy-washy old women. Keep it simple and shut your "we need to change" mouths. You can't legislate human nature off the planet or out of hockey.
It's all pretty easy
Here is the thing you could get rid of all the useless fights and still have them very easily.
So let's say Marchand lays out Cody Hodgson. With a clean hit. Mike Weber skates over and challenges him an they fight.
Result should ALWAYS BE:
5 MIN Fighting Marchand
5 MIN Fighting Weber
2 MIN Instigator Weber
If the hit would have been illegal it should ALWAYS BE:
5 MIN Fighting Weber
5 MIN Fighting Marchand
2 MIN Charging/Roughing(whatever it was) Marchand
If they would make the right decision here and call the instigator more often we would have less stupid fights and would have only fights that are there for a reason.
IF PLAYERS would see "hey I cant fight him after a clean hit because I would put my own team on the PK" we would not have those stupid fights after clean hits.
I'm with you!
There needs to be a fight in every game! Gets the fans pumped,gets the team pumped. Love it. I have never been to a game and that was not true. Listen to the fans at a game when a fight breaks out. Just saying.
I see "sports cliche" Sal has now put his two cents into the fighting debate. I have no problem with fighting. It is part of the game. Although, if they got rid of it, I would still watch hockey. Not the like fools who say that if fighting is banned, they wouldn't watch hockey anymore. Also, to say that by taking fighting out of hockey it makes it a soft sport is a fool, as if you played hockey, there is more than enough contact and aggression to satisfy me. Lastly, for anyone to say that the line brawl in Vancouver is something good, they should get your head examined. Vancouver's coach should have been sat out a few games as his only purpose was to start something as shown by the actions of the centerman by not going for the puck but by grabbing the other guy. That kind of stuff is what is making the NHL a bush league.
DROP THE GLOVES!!!! EH????
AND PUNCH PAUL HAMILTON IN THE MOUTH, SAL!!! THAT WOULD BE JUSTICE !!!
Core part of the game which makes hockey unique
Hockey needs fighting and the threat thereof to control dirty play and to simply exert one's will on the other team. As fighting is usually at the base of every argument's arsenal in all aspects of life, sometimes you save a lot of grief by using it as the first resort instead of the last one. And of course, most men enjoy watching a good rowdy-dow. If you over-officiate anything, it soon loses it appeal to people and its emotion. Fighting is good for the game - from policing it - to entertainment value. I say keep it, and let all the nay-sayers watch something that doesn't offend their meek sensibilities.
Fighting is and always should be part of the game.......
If it is legislated out, the stick fouls, which are way worse than any fight, will increase. The NHL needs to learn real fast that too many prohibitive and excessive rules(see the NFL) will start to make the game unwatchable, which the NFL is fast becoming with all the excessive and selective officiating.
re; to drop the gloves
Hey sal don't do that because. Hamilton is a lover not a fighter. You might get mad and hurt that girl; Oh my fault i mean boy. He might get mad and say stop teasing me sal. you know i don't fight mens.
Sal I have the very same sentiments about the sport. I'm 49 years old and started watching hockey when I was about 16. I started watching hockey in part for the fighting. But as I learned to understand the game and how fighting not only provided entertainment but played a key roll in the game, I fell in love with the sport. I went for many years watching every game I could. If I couldn't be home to see a game I'd record it and watch it when I got home. I attended what NHL games I could afford to and went to a tremendous amount of AHL games. I greatly miss the intimidation and fighting that's slowly been weeded out in todays game by the new casual fan, soccer moms and politically correct people that need to "fix" everything. I still enjoy the game today but don't attend or watch even a small fraction of the games I used to. It's refreshing to see someone that likes fighting in the game be willing to speak up without being concerned for todays casual fan bashing them for liking "violence".
I happened to be watching the Vancouver/Calgary game when the big line brawl happened. There was a crowd of probably 18-20,000 people there and it didn't look like every one of them was on their feet cheering the entire time. In fact every game I watch, attend or see pictures of the entire crowd is standing and cheering the fight. I do realize there may be 4 or 5 people in that entire arena that are may be thinking "now stop that right now". Apparently those are the 4 or 5 people that write the anti fighting articles and the rest of the crowd that was cheering are so tired from cheering they don't write how much they enjoy it.
Punch Jeremy in the mouth too. Maybe he'll stop being an idiot. Sylvester and Peters need a good spankin' too for shilling a poor product.
Nice to read something pro-fighting for once. I hope you emailed it to Howard Simon.
RE: ONLY AT WGR COULD SAL BE A
GOON!!! WHAT A BUNCH OF MARYS!!!!! SLAP ALL THOSE AMATUERS AROUND, SALLY!!!