The NHL trade deadline is closing in and after almost a year of wondering we are about to find out what the future will hold for Ryan Miller.
Here are the options.
He goes nowhere. Now that Tim Murray has publicly placed the for sale/rent sign on Miller, the only reason for the goalie to be in Buffalo beyond next Wednesday is if the Sabres are unable to find a deal they like. To me, Murray sounds very much like a guy who is confident he'll get a return he can live with and I'm feeling like the trade is only a matter of when, not if.
So where does he go?
I've been talking up Washington for a while now. When the Capitals were here last at the end of January I started really thinking about them making sense for a big move. Acquiring Miller would be a big move. This idea has less to do with the Capitals being Ryan Miller away from a Stanley Cup run than it does with pressure I believe would be on their GM to do something dramatic.
George McPhee has been the Capitals GM since 1997. They made the finals in his first season on the job. They've won their division 7 times, have had some great seasons and even won some playoff rounds since. Despite this, their reputation is that they're never quite good enough. My premise here is that McPhee could feel some pressure to do something big with his team or risk seeing the sand run out of the hourglass on his tenure. Not making the playoffs or even getting in but going out early could be a sign that big changes need to be made to the Capitals roster. It would seem logical that ownership at that point might consider changing the guy who built it rather than let McPhee tear it down and start over. Sound familiar, Sabres fans?
What do I get from Washington? Well I really like Marcus Johansson, a 23 year old center. Problem here is that if Washington is trying to win now by trading for Miller it doesn't seem likely that they'd give up a good roster player. That could change if the Capitals made a second deal for another center to replace Johansson. Prospect wise, Andre Burakovsky was a first round pick last year and is currently playing for Erie of the OHL. He has 32 goals in 48 games with the Otters. I'd start there if I were the Sabres. I'll also take either one of their NHL goalies just to get the deal done.
The St. Louis Blues make a lot of sense, so much so that our Mathew Coller has been looking at the Blues as a landing spot going back to last winter. A very strong team, it doesn't seem like goaltending is a real weakness for the Blues. Both Brian Elliott and Jaroslav Halak have respectable enough numbers. The problem for the Blues is they are in a stacked Western Conference and will likely be in tense low scoring games come playoff time. They lost 4 straight one goal games to the Kings last year after winning the first two games of the series. It is possible to me that the Blues could view Miller as the one piece they need to be the team standing above LA, Chicago, San Jose and Anaheim when the smoke clears on what should be a brutal Western Conference post season.
Complicating things even more in a potential Miller trade to the Blues is whether or not they think they can sign Miller long term. It is quite possible to me that the Blues could want Miller and meet the Sabres price, but be uncomfortable with either the cost of re-upping with him or with Miller wanting to commit to them. There are a lot of moving parts when you factor this in. Would Miller pass up a look at free agency to sign with the Blues? How many teams would be interested in paying Miller big money in July? Is it really many more than are interested now? Would the Blues pay him top dollar, between $7-8 million?
Add it all up, and this is risky because I'm pretty far into Miller's head here, but for a chance to win over the next few years the Blues seem to be about as good as you could hope to do. A bad team might be willing to pay Miller more in the summer but is that what this is about? I think no.
Most of this goes out the window if the Blues are only interested in renting Miller. I don't happen to think that makes a lot sense. If the Blues think Miller is worth getting for this year I think they'd likely think him being their goalie for the next few years would be a good idea. The Blues do have a prospect goalie by the name of Jake Allen that they may want to clear the deck for, so there is that.
What do I want from the Blues? Again, I'll take whichever NHL goalie they want to give me, not feeling all that picky about that. It's mostly about taking salary back. Prospects wise, both Dmitri Jaskin and Ty Rattie get favorable write ups at Hockey Prospectus. Both are right wings who project as very good second line players if not top liners. Jaskin has just recently been recalled by the Blues. I suppose if I could pry the young goalie Allen loose that would work too, but assuming I have to take the salary of either Halak or Elliott makes getting a second goalie in the trade unlikely to me.
Beyond the Blues and the Capitals I have a tough time seeing a fit anywhere else. Maybe Philadelphia, Columbus, Minnesota or some other team will pop up and decide to go for it. The smart money belongs on the team that has made the most sense for the longest time, the Blues. A Miller commitment to stay there makes more sense than Washington. If this deal hinges on a contract extension for Miller, the Blues are my pick.
Bulldog's sentence structure and grammar are laughable.
Where does Miller go?
He can go to Lazy Lakes for all I care. There are other trades to talk about besides Ryan Miller. Whatever, I am expecting a "whole" new roster next season including two new goaltenders. FIRE UP THEM CAT'S!!!
NOT WASHINGTON, PLZ
i live here now. i have watched and listened to Craps fans tell me how much Miller sucks. I can't bear thinking about going to games against Buffalo and listening to the Craps fans say how great Miller is. I know I'm psycho but that's how i feel. anywhere but DC
Does it really matter at this point? Live from my Armchair
Miller getting bowled over in the 1st period yesterday against Carolina could have ended anywhere he'd could be going. Think! He shouldn't be playing until after the deadline if he is indeed going to get traded. If he is still here after the deadline, we all know what will happen. He's gone when UFA opens up in July for nothing. Again, think! If he was to get traded, I'm thinking Anaheim.
Who replaces an all star goalie? A prospect?A draft choice? we have enough of those, I say resign him, or get a player who can score and isn't soft...A young veteran....Please stop talking about this for four hours! Paint drying is more exciting than your show...
the question i have is not where does Miller go but what do the Sabres get back as far as another goalie goes? Neither guy in Rochester is ready to be an NHL backup.
Change the course somewhat, Miller talk is getting old
With all the attention on Miller, have we forgotten about guys like Ennis, Stafford, and Weber who many would love to see out of here? The writing is on the wall already hearing Miller, Nolan, and Murray conferences that he'll be gone, so why continue about it. Move on to some of the others that should get moved or players the Sabres should be eyeing. I'd like to see both Callahan and Girardi here somehow and re signing Ott and Moulson. It would be nice to finally see some proactivity around here.
No Ennis tonight?
Possible e5 package brewing? Stay tuned for any breaking news...
I have said that a darkhorse is Philly. Their GM is a big risk taker and after they recovered and salvaged their season do they think they can go further with Mason and Emery as their goaltenders? I know they just resigned Mason but adding Miller would really change the balance of power in their division
Sabres Fan in Kingston
This is a pretty good analysis involving Ryan Miller, the Sabres and the usual trades suspects. My impression of Tim Murray's comments last night about there being two to ten teams expressing various levels of interest is a way to try and drive up the price for Miller. It may also be a subtle way of letting us know that the return may not on the surface be as great as we would like or expect. Nonetheless, I agree with the bottom line that it is a matter of when he will be traded. The clock ticks.
Hmm, I'm guessing here but maybe to the highest bidder?
The bigger and better question is: are the Sabres smart enough to trade/waive/cut/flat-out remove that skating waste product named Drew Stafford? THAT is the $64,000 question. Move Ennis with him and maybe, juuuussssstttttt maybe the team might become relevant again someday.
This article pretty much states what we all know.
But I think the likelihood of him walking are much greater than Bulldog thinks.
WGR and fan relationships are way off the charts. Increasingly, awfully bad. No other way to put it. What the fans have to say now a days get swept under the rug or just gets ignored. What it comes down to is that WGR is never wrong or claims to be never wrong. The ones paying for the poor products are the stupid ones and have no say. Mediocrity will always come into play when a radio station won't allow the real voices to voice displeasure and that's many of the fans. Screen out the negativity or just plain hang up. The comment boards, well there are many, but only a few get put on to make it look good to show nothing is really wrong. Just compare the boards on the Buzz compared to WGR. The Buzz fills up pretty quick. The polls even show a difference if its on the same topic. What's on TV tonight by the way?
The Buffalo #Sabres are attempting to move Ryan Miller. The #MNWild, #Caps and #STLBlues are in a bidding war over the star goalie. The St. Louis Blues offered Jaroslav Halak and a second round draft pick for Miller.
Miller to Blues
The Blues make the most sense to me as a trade partner for Miller. Team on the verge that needs better goaltending. Works at least for the next three years for both parties.
If I'm St. Louis I want to dump some salary to take on Miller and leave room for another deadline deal. So I believe the deal from their side would be Halak and Stewart for Miller.
Sitting in the Sabres chair for a minute I would take Halak but want Rattie over Stewart. Would love Oshie but probably not possible.
The big question is can Nolan turn Stewart into a consistent player?
Where does Miller go?
Great discussion we got here. An empty comment box again. What time was this blog put on here? It's now 6:37PM.
You always forget.
Just because you trade miller dosen't means miller have to say yes to that mess. miller can also try out for other teams by himself. And i think that is what going to happen. They are going to try to move him somewhere where he dont want to be; And miller is going to say thank you but no thanks. Miller have repeatly had said he like the city, the fans, and love the sabres. Well isn't that making a statement. To me its like he saying if i can't play here. than my agent will find me an club that i want to play for. either way miller will come out with the last say so. And it won't be idoits thats on the whiner line. And you know why cause miller is telling them. Get the hell of my back whiners. Because hommie don't play that.
does anybody WATCH Hockey???
Now I don't come on here often, cause WGR and whiner liners on here, who talk dumb. Make it simple for everyone to understand, Miller, Moulson, Ott, Tallinder, and maybe Ennis or CoHo will be gone. Stafford and Leino will stay as we need the Cap hit to stay above the Cap Floor, especially with those guys leaving. If its the Blues, it will be Halak, Rattie and a first round pick in 2015.
How AWESOME would it be if we traded Ott and Moulson away, and then Re-Signed them after the season?!?!?!?! That would be the coolest thing ever!!!
Between 5 and 10 players on the Sabres will get traded between now and March 5th. I don't care what Paulrus says.
hommie play this
miller cant go to st louis its a budweiser town
How does Columbus make any sense at all? That seems grossly uninformed at best